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| − | Documenting Lule Sami is a pilot study for the | + | Documenting Lule Sami is a pilot study for the in-depth manual annotation of written Lule Sami (for more information about the project itself see [[Annotation_of_representative_texts_from_Lule_Sami_-_An_NTNU_project]]). The study was conducted by [[User:Dorothee|Dorothee Beermann]] (see also [[About TypeCraft]]) at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology [http://www.ntnu.no/]. The project started in Mai 2008 and ended in December 2008. Under [[About Lule Sami]] you find a short introduction to the Lule Sami language; there you also find references to other relevant links about the Sami and their language. |
| − | + | Lule Sami is a morphologically rich, highly inflected and very often fusional language which makes its in-depth morpho-syntactic annotation an interesting, yet at the same time a difficult and very time-consuming task. None of the texts we have collected has been annotated before, and since Lule Sami is, with fewer than 1,500 speakers in Norway and Sweden, of which only a few speak Lule Sami as their first language, one of the highly endangered languages in Europe, it is important that efforts in documenting Lule Sami are made now. | |
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| − | + | Below we discuss some of the issues that were raised during the annotation process. | |
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| − | + | ====Annotating Lule Sami - Questions and some answers==== | |
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| − | === | + | =====Categories and Functions===== |
| − | + | '''ADJ and N''' | |
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| − | + | Anders Kintel writes: | |
| − | ''' | + | '''"Vi gjør oppmerksom på at de fleste adjektiv i samisk kan også fungere som substantiv og også motsatt, derfor står det ikke alltid en markering bak ordet som tilsier at dette er et adjektiv eller et substantiv".''' |
| + | Here a free translation: | ||
| − | + | ''We would like to draw attention to the fact that most adjectives in Sami can function as nouns, as well as nouns can function as adjectives; therefore not always a specification'' [n. or adj.] '' is given after the word that expresses that this is an adjective or a noun.'' | |
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| − | + | Reference: | |
| + | Kintel A. ''Lulesamisk-norsk''. Ajluokta /Drag, Biehtsemanon 2005. Unpublished manuscript. | ||
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| − | + | An example of how we have annotated de-adjectival and other derivational lexemes comes from one of the texts from the TypeCraft database. | |
| − | + | In the example below we annotate ''vuorra'' meaning ''old'' on the POS tier as '''N''': | |
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| − | + | <Phrase>4203</Phrase> | |
| + | In the case of ''vuorro'' we in fact do find derivational morphology. The -s in vuorra-s [vuorrasa] marks the noun as derived. The -s is followed by case inflection. Clearly, the function of ''vuorra'' is that of a noun, and accordingly it has been inflected for case. | ||
| − | + | In general we will assign POS categories according to the function that a word has in a given context. On the glossing tier we will in addition indicate the word's derivation. For example in cases where the suffix -s reflects nominalization, we will provide the ADJ-> N tag in the gloss line. | |
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| − | + | Notice that we use the gloss tags '''ATT''' for attributive forms and '''PRED''' for predicative forms of the adjective. Some forms are equal morphologically, in this case we will only use the POS tier to indicate the adjective status. | |
| − | + | '''V > N''' | |
| − | + | (Kristin): I think it is NOT enough to annotate V > N, V > V, etc. We should mark every derivation with what kind of N derivation it is. I have written something about it below: | |
| − | ''' | + | |
| − | + | In the phrase below the word for ''temptation'' is derived from the verb 'watch/look'', which in LS is ''gähttjalibmáj''. When we decompose this word we get: '''gæhttjat+V+TV+Der1+Der/l+V+Actio+Der2+Der/ibme+N+Sg+Ill''' | |
| − | + | Consider the following phrase: | |
| − | + | <Phrase>3066</Phrase> | |
| − | + | In descriptive Sami grammars the nominalizer ''li'' is called '''Actio'''. The nominalizer seems to be internally complex: | |
| + | '''-li-''' i '''gæhttja-li-t''' = subjunctive-FREQ | ||
| + | (Dorothee) At this point it is not clear which subtypes of nominalizing suffixes we should distinguish. Should we for example introduce NMLZ.actio and other subtypes of nominalizer. How useful would that be? | ||
| + | Perhaps we should wait until we have a clearer overview over which categories are needed, and try to use the tags of the type V>N etc. for the time being. | ||
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| − | + | '''V > Adj but how about ADJ->V''' | |
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| − | + | In the phrase below we need the tag ADJ->V | |
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| − | '''oahpásmuvvat | + | '''oahpásmuvvat''': '''oahpás-''' is an '''ADJ''' ('oahpás-' in compounds, 'oahpes' (ATT) otherwise) |
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| − | ( | + | (Kristin): It should be possible to note somewhere that verb(s) can be derived from adjectives. Maybe there should be one more level for derivations only? Also, the translation is of no help: while '''oahpás-''' is an ADJ in ATT form, '''known''' is a V in PERF.PART form. Translation gives us only sketchy semantics. |
| + | (Dorothee): '''UPS''' yes, we need the tag ADJ->V | ||
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<Phrase>3039</Phrase> | <Phrase>3039</Phrase> | ||
| − | + | Above is a nominal construction where the possessive pronoun follows the noun. | |
| − | + | Possessive pronouns may also precede the noun. | |
| + | Question: | ||
| + | Are both syntactic pattern in free distribution? | ||
| + | Is one of the two constructions preferred? So do we find one of the constructions more often in our texts? | ||
| − | + | Why really should we use only PRON when the possessive is used attributive, but PRON.POSS when it is used as modifier?. | |
| − | === | + | =====VERBAL FORMS===== |
| − | + | ======more verbal tags...====== | |
| − | + | While annotating verb forms in Lule Sami we noticed that TypeCraft did not provide all the tags we | |
| − | + | needed. In the following we exemplify some of the verb forms, and discuss the right use of tags. | |
| − | + | Please see the updated list of gloss tags [[Special:TypeCraft/GlossTags/]] ([[User:Dorothee|Dorothee]] 15:51, 15 December 2008 (CET)) | |
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| − | + | '''GERUND''' | |
| + | we need two tags for two distinct gerunds: | ||
| − | + | '''Gerund I''' | |
| − | + | expresses: 'while'..., 'at the same time as'... Gerund I expresses the partial overlap of two events. | |
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| − | + | sån oaddá-j bårå-'''dijn''' = he fell asleep while eating | |
| − | + | jåhte-t -> jåde'''-dijn''' = while moving | |
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| − | = | + | tjieggi-t -> tjieggi'''-dijn''' = while traveling |
| − | = | + | tjåhkani-t -> tjåhkana'''-ttjin'''= while assembling |
| − | + | Note: | |
| + | '''-dijn''' is used after the last vowel of the week stem of a pair-syllabic verb or after the last vowel of the stem of a contracted verb. | ||
| + | '''-ttjin'''is used after the last vowel of an unpair-syllabic verb (the last stem vowel changes to '-a'). | ||
| − | ''' | + | '''Gerund II''' |
| − | + | expresses: someone is doing something, or something is going on, or something has started but is not finished. | |
| + | The Gerund II is build through the use of the auxiliary '''liehke-t''' (to be). | ||
| − | + | sån '''la''' låhkå'''-min''' = he is reading | |
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| − | + | '''-min''' - used after the last vowel of the strong stem of a pair-syllabic verb | |
| − | + | Ex: sån '''la''' goarro'''-min''' (= she is sewing) | |
| − | + | - used after the last vowel of a contract verb: | |
| − | = | + | Ex: sån '''la''' guolli'''-min''' (= she is fishing) |
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| − | + | ''' -me''' - used after the last vowel of an unpair-syllabic verb | |
| − | + | Ex: sån '''la''' malesti'''-me''' (= he is cooking) (all examples from Spiik) (Kristin) | |
| − | + | '''Imperative''' | |
| − | + | Also here we need two distinct tags to distinguish between | |
| − | + | '''IMP.1''' which expresses a direct order. | |
| − | + | '''IMP.2''' which expresses a strong wish or suggestion | |
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| − | + | '''INCHOATIVE''' | |
| − | + | In the gloss tier we need a tag for inchoative verbs. Here an example: | |
| + | <Phrase>4785</Phrase> | ||
| + | '''oaddá'''-t er '''inchoative''' of '''oade'''-t. | ||
| − | + | Done. Look at [[Special:TypeCraft/GlossTags/]] ([[User:Dorothee|Dorothee]] 14:20, 15 December 2008 (CET)) | |
| − | + | Phonologically inchoatives are marked by a fortification of the consonant cluster and lengthening of the last vowel in the stem. | |
| − | ''' | + | '''NEGATIVE VERBS''' |
| − | ''' | + | The tag '''Vneg''' in the POS tier is needed. Please see the list of gloss tags [[Special:TypeCraft/GlossTags/]] |
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| − | + | =====Supinum===== | |
| + | <Phrase>3575</Phrase> | ||
| − | + | How should one annotate the suffix '''-tji''' in the above sentence. | |
| − | + | [[User:Kristin]] had suggested to use 'supinum'. The supinum is one of the infinite forms of LS next to the infinitive, the gerund, the participle and possibly others. In the examples above the suffix '''-tji''' was first annotated as supinum and the the -t as an infinitive marker, which did not | |
| − | + | make to much sense. [[User:Kristin]] then suggested that 'supinum' is '''tjit''' and as such an infinite marker. At present we have an annotation as shown in the example above. | |
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| − | + | The examples below illustrates the supinum | |
| − | + | Ex: "Dån la má smidá '''váttsá-tjit'''!" - "You are clever '''at walking'''!" | |
| + | It seems that most instances of infinitives so far occur after modal verbs, yet here seems to be a different case: | ||
| − | + | <Phrase>3663</Phrase> | |
| − | + | How should one really annnotate that one? ([[User:Dorothee|Dorothee]] 16:35, 15 December 2008 (CET)) | |
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| − | ''' | + | '''Derivational or inflectional ??''' |
| − | + | We would like to mention that the '''supinum''' is characterised as a derivational suffix in descriptive grammars of LS. It is mentioned among the '''ordavledninger''', the Norwegian word for word derivation. | |
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| − | + | '''Strong and weak verb stems''' | |
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| − | + | Verbs in LS can either have a weak or a strong stem, so for example the verb ''wash'' which has two stem forms | |
| − | + | '''''basá'' and '' bassi''''' | |
| − | + | the 1P, present tense is expressed as '''basá-v''' while the 1P past tense is '''bassi-v'''. | |
| − | + | We will use the tag '''WEAK''' and '''STRONG''' to distinguish these two different types of verb stems. | |
| − | + | ====Grammatical Changes==== | |
| + | LS is changing... | ||
| − | + | <Phrase>4763</Phrase> | |
| + | '''oahpásmuvvat doarromuseajn''' | ||
| − | + | According to grammars of LS - oahpásmuvvat takes '''ILL''', but in the example sentence above it is used with a '''COMIT''' | |
| − | + | case. This leads to a change in meaning: | |
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| + | - '''muvva-t''': used with '''ILL''': the meaning is: get to know (people and concrete things), get accustomed to, get experience with, get familiar with. | ||
| − | + | (- '''tuvva-t''' used with '''COMIT''' the meaning is: learn to know). (Kristin) | |
| − | + | ====Translation of place names==== | |
| − | + | In English (as in other languages too - but not so much in Norwegian..) it is quite normal to translate proper names, e.g. München > Munich, Firenze > Florence, København > Copenhagen, etc. | |
| − | + | Lule Sami place names have been translated into Norwegian, such as: | |
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| − | + | '''Ájluokta-Drag'''; '''Gásluokta-Kjøpsvik'''; '''Guovdageaidnu-Kautokeino'''; '''Divttasvuodna-Tysfjord''', etc. | |
| − | + | In Norway place names have officially a Sami and a Norwegian name, and the Sami name is used when writing in Sami, while the Norwegian one is used when writing in Norwegian. | |
| − | + | As for free translation into English this could mean that we either use the Sami name, since we translate from Sami, or that | |
| + | we use the Norwegian name, since the Norwegian name is also internationally better known. | ||
| − | + | '''Which one should it be?''' | |
| − | + | ====SÁMI - SAMI - SAAMI==== | |
| − | + | (Kristin): I just talked with the employee at the museum at Arran who has the responsibility for the exibitions, Anne Kalstad Mikkelsen. She has checked '''the spelling''' of '''sáme''' with the Norvegian Sami Parliament. The Sami Parliament has decided that '''sáme''' is to be written '''Sami''' in English. So the museum has to follow this norm. | |
| + | So - we should then follow the same norm! (Shouldn't we?) | ||
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Latest revision as of 21:57, 7 October 2015
Documenting Lule Sami is a pilot study for the in-depth manual annotation of written Lule Sami (for more information about the project itself see Annotation_of_representative_texts_from_Lule_Sami_-_An_NTNU_project). The study was conducted by Dorothee Beermann (see also About TypeCraft) at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology [1]. The project started in Mai 2008 and ended in December 2008. Under About Lule Sami you find a short introduction to the Lule Sami language; there you also find references to other relevant links about the Sami and their language.
Lule Sami is a morphologically rich, highly inflected and very often fusional language which makes its in-depth morpho-syntactic annotation an interesting, yet at the same time a difficult and very time-consuming task. None of the texts we have collected has been annotated before, and since Lule Sami is, with fewer than 1,500 speakers in Norway and Sweden, of which only a few speak Lule Sami as their first language, one of the highly endangered languages in Europe, it is important that efforts in documenting Lule Sami are made now.
Below we discuss some of the issues that were raised during the annotation process.
Contents
Annotating Lule Sami - Questions and some answers
Categories and Functions
ADJ and N
Anders Kintel writes:
"Vi gjør oppmerksom på at de fleste adjektiv i samisk kan også fungere som substantiv og også motsatt, derfor står det ikke alltid en markering bak ordet som tilsier at dette er et adjektiv eller et substantiv".
Here a free translation:
We would like to draw attention to the fact that most adjectives in Sami can function as nouns, as well as nouns can function as adjectives; therefore not always a specification [n. or adj.] is given after the word that expresses that this is an adjective or a noun.
Reference: Kintel A. Lulesamisk-norsk. Ajluokta /Drag, Biehtsemanon 2005. Unpublished manuscript.
An example of how we have annotated de-adjectival and other derivational lexemes comes from one of the texts from the TypeCraft database.
In the example below we annotate vuorra meaning old on the POS tier as N:
| Várrá |
| várrá |
| mountainNOMSG |
| N |
| vuolgget | |
| vuolgge | t |
| go | INF |
| Vitr | |
| guollit | |
| guolli | t |
| fish | N>VINF |
| Vitr | |
| ja |
| ja |
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| vuorrasij | ||
| vuorra | si | j |
| old | GENPL | |
| N | ||
| siegen | |
| siege | n |
| with | INESSSG |
| Nspat | |
| tjåhkkåhit | ||
| tjåhkkå | hi | t |
| sit | DUR | INF |
| Vitr | ||
| ja |
| ja |
| and |
| CONJC |
| gulldalit | ||
| gullda | li | t |
| listen | DUR | INF |
| gå |
| gå |
| when |
| COMP |
| subtsasti… | |
| subtsa | sti… |
| tale | N>V3PLPRES |
| Vitr | |
In the case of vuorro we in fact do find derivational morphology. The -s in vuorra-s [vuorrasa] marks the noun as derived. The -s is followed by case inflection. Clearly, the function of vuorra is that of a noun, and accordingly it has been inflected for case.
In general we will assign POS categories according to the function that a word has in a given context. On the glossing tier we will in addition indicate the word's derivation. For example in cases where the suffix -s reflects nominalization, we will provide the ADJ-> N tag in the gloss line.
Notice that we use the gloss tags ATT for attributive forms and PRED for predicative forms of the adjective. Some forms are equal morphologically, in this case we will only use the POS tier to indicate the adjective status.
V > N
(Kristin): I think it is NOT enough to annotate V > N, V > V, etc. We should mark every derivation with what kind of N derivation it is. I have written something about it below:
In the phrase below the word for temptation is derived from the verb 'watch/look, which in LS is gähttjalibmáj. When we decompose this word we get: gæhttjat+V+TV+Der1+Der/l+V+Actio+Der2+Der/ibme+N+Sg+Ill
Consider the following phrase:
| Ja |
| ja |
| and |
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| ale |
| ale |
| notIMP2SG |
| mijáv | |
| mijáv | v |
| us | 1PLACC |
| PN | |
| gæhttjalibmáj | |||
| gæhttja | li | bmá | j |
| watch/look | DIMFREQ | V>N | ILLSG |
| N | |||
| lájddi |
| lájddi |
| leadIMP2SG |
| Vtr |
| ájnat |
| ájnat |
| but |
| CONJS |
| várjjala |
| várjjala |
| deliverIMP2SG |
| mijáv |
| mijáv |
| us1PLACC |
| PN |
| bahás | |
| bahá | s |
| evil | ELATSG |
| N | |
In descriptive Sami grammars the nominalizer li is called Actio. The nominalizer seems to be internally complex: -li- i gæhttja-li-t = subjunctive-FREQ
(Dorothee) At this point it is not clear which subtypes of nominalizing suffixes we should distinguish. Should we for example introduce NMLZ.actio and other subtypes of nominalizer. How useful would that be? Perhaps we should wait until we have a clearer overview over which categories are needed, and try to use the tags of the type V>N etc. for the time being.
V > Adj but how about ADJ->V
In the phrase below we need the tag ADJ->V
| Dá |
| dá |
| theseNOMPL |
| DEM |
| bale |
| bale |
| timeGENSG |
| N |
| bessin | |
| bessi | n |
| be_allowed | 3PLPAST |
| Vitr | |
| oahppe |
| oahppe |
| pupilNOMPL |
| N |
| vehi |
| vehi |
| little |
| ADVm |
| oahpásmuvvat | |||
| oahpá | s | muvva | t |
| get_to_be | INF | ||
| Vtr | |||
| doarromuseajn | ||
| doarro | musea | jn |
| warNOMSG | museum | withCOMITSG |
| N | ||
| Narvijkan | |
| Narvijka | n |
| Narvik | atINESSSG |
| Np | |
| ja |
| ja |
| and |
| CONJC |
| sáme |
| sáme |
| SaamiGENSG |
| N |
| ásadusáj | |
| ásadusá | j |
| arrangemet | medCOMITPL |
| N | |
| Jåhkåmåhken | |
| Jåhkåmåhke | n |
| river_bend | atINESSSG |
| Np | |
| åvdås |
| åvdås |
| before |
| vádtsájin | |
| vádtsá | jin |
| leave | 3PLPAST |
| Vitr | |
oahpásmuvvat: oahpás- is an ADJ ('oahpás-' in compounds, 'oahpes' (ATT) otherwise)
(Kristin): It should be possible to note somewhere that verb(s) can be derived from adjectives. Maybe there should be one more level for derivations only? Also, the translation is of no help: while oahpás- is an ADJ in ATT form, known is a V in PERF.PART form. Translation gives us only sketchy semantics.
(Dorothee): UPS yes, we need the tag ADJ->V
PRON.POSS vs. PRON
| Áhttje |
| áhttje |
| fatherNOMSG |
| N |
| mijá |
| mij |
| ourGENPL |
| PN |
| guhti |
| guhti |
| whoNOMSG |
| PROint |
| le |
| le |
| is3SGPRES |
| COP |
| almen | |
| alme | n |
| heaven | inINESSSG |
| N | |
Above is a nominal construction where the possessive pronoun follows the noun. Possessive pronouns may also precede the noun.
Question: Are both syntactic pattern in free distribution? Is one of the two constructions preferred? So do we find one of the constructions more often in our texts?
Why really should we use only PRON when the possessive is used attributive, but PRON.POSS when it is used as modifier?.
VERBAL FORMS
more verbal tags...
While annotating verb forms in Lule Sami we noticed that TypeCraft did not provide all the tags we needed. In the following we exemplify some of the verb forms, and discuss the right use of tags.
Please see the updated list of gloss tags Special:TypeCraft/GlossTags/ (Dorothee 15:51, 15 December 2008 (CET))
GERUND we need two tags for two distinct gerunds:
Gerund I
expresses: 'while'..., 'at the same time as'... Gerund I expresses the partial overlap of two events.
sån oaddá-j bårå-dijn = he fell asleep while eating
jåhte-t -> jåde-dijn = while moving
tjieggi-t -> tjieggi-dijn = while traveling
tjåhkani-t -> tjåhkana-ttjin= while assembling
Note: -dijn is used after the last vowel of the week stem of a pair-syllabic verb or after the last vowel of the stem of a contracted verb. -ttjinis used after the last vowel of an unpair-syllabic verb (the last stem vowel changes to '-a').
Gerund II
expresses: someone is doing something, or something is going on, or something has started but is not finished. The Gerund II is build through the use of the auxiliary liehke-t (to be).
sån la låhkå-min = he is reading
-min - used after the last vowel of the strong stem of a pair-syllabic verb
Ex: sån la goarro-min (= she is sewing)
- used after the last vowel of a contract verb:
Ex: sån la guolli-min (= she is fishing)
-me - used after the last vowel of an unpair-syllabic verb
Ex: sån la malesti-me (= he is cooking) (all examples from Spiik) (Kristin)
Imperative
Also here we need two distinct tags to distinguish between
IMP.1 which expresses a direct order.
IMP.2 which expresses a strong wish or suggestion
INCHOATIVE
In the gloss tier we need a tag for inchoative verbs. Here an example:
| Hyhto |
| hyhto |
| cabinGENSG |
| N |
| sisi |
| sisi |
| insideILLSG |
| Nspat |
| manájma | ||
| maná | j | ma |
| go | PAST | 1PL |
| Vitr | ||
| ja |
| ja |
| and |
| CONJC |
| jus |
| jus |
| if |
| CONJS |
| riekta |
| riekta |
| right |
| ADVm |
| de |
| de |
| then |
| CONJS |
| oaddát | |
| oaddá | t |
| sleepINCEP | INF |
| Vitr | |
| galgajma | ||
| galga | j | ma |
| shall | PAST | 1PL |
| AUX | ||
| valla |
| valla |
| but |
| CONJC |
| ejma | ||
| e | j | ma |
| notNEG | PAST | 1PL |
| Vtr | ||
| ájn |
| ájn |
| yet |
| ADVtemp |
| ájgo |
| ájgo |
| intendNEG |
| PTCP |
oaddá-t er inchoative of oade-t.
Done. Look at Special:TypeCraft/GlossTags/ (Dorothee 14:20, 15 December 2008 (CET))
Phonologically inchoatives are marked by a fortification of the consonant cluster and lengthening of the last vowel in the stem.
NEGATIVE VERBS
The tag Vneg in the POS tier is needed. Please see the list of gloss tags Special:TypeCraft/GlossTags/
Supinum
| Iŋŋga: |
| Iŋŋgá: |
| Inggá:NOMSG |
| Np |
| Mån |
| mån |
| I1SGNOM |
| PN |
| dal |
| dal |
| now |
| ADVtemp |
| biejav | |
| bieja | v |
| put | 1SGPRES |
| Vtr | |
| mállásav | |
| mállása | v |
| dinner | ACCSG |
| N | |
| duoldatjit | ||
| duolda | tji | t |
| cook | for | INF |
| V | ||
How should one annotate the suffix -tji in the above sentence.
User:Kristin had suggested to use 'supinum'. The supinum is one of the infinite forms of LS next to the infinitive, the gerund, the participle and possibly others. In the examples above the suffix -tji was first annotated as supinum and the the -t as an infinitive marker, which did not
make to much sense. User:Kristin then suggested that 'supinum' is tjit and as such an infinite marker. At present we have an annotation as shown in the example above.
The examples below illustrates the supinum
Ex: "Dån la má smidá váttsá-tjit!" - "You are clever at walking!"
It seems that most instances of infinitives so far occur after modal verbs, yet here seems to be a different case:
| Mån |
| mån |
| I1SGNOM |
| PN |
| galgav | |
| galga | v |
| shall | 1SGPRES |
| AUX | |
| suhkkát | |
| suhkká | t |
| row | INF |
| Vitr | |
| sájdev | |
| sájde | v |
| pollock | ACCSG |
| N | |
| bivdátjit | |
| bivdá | tjit |
| fish | to |
How should one really annnotate that one? (Dorothee 16:35, 15 December 2008 (CET))
Derivational or inflectional ??
We would like to mention that the supinum is characterised as a derivational suffix in descriptive grammars of LS. It is mentioned among the ordavledninger, the Norwegian word for word derivation.
Strong and weak verb stems
Verbs in LS can either have a weak or a strong stem, so for example the verb wash which has two stem forms
basá and bassi
the 1P, present tense is expressed as basá-v while the 1P past tense is bassi-v.
We will use the tag WEAK and STRONG to distinguish these two different types of verb stems.
Grammatical Changes
LS is changing...
| Dá |
| dá |
| theseNOMPL |
| DEM |
| bale |
| bale |
| timeGENSG |
| N |
| bessin | |
| bessi | n |
| be_allowed | 3PLPAST |
| Vitr | |
| oahppe |
| oahppe |
| pupilNOMPL |
| N |
| vehi |
| vehi |
| little |
| ADVm |
| oahpásmuvvat | |||
| oahpá | s | muvva | t |
| get_to_be | INF | ||
| Vtr | |||
| doarromuseajn | ||
| doarro | musea | jn |
| warNOMSG | museum | withCOMITSG |
| N | ||
| Narvijkan | |
| Narvijka | n |
| Narvik | atINESSSG |
| Np | |
| ja |
| ja |
| and |
| CONJC |
| sáme |
| sáme |
| SaamiGENSG |
| N |
| ásadusáj | |
| ásadusá | j |
| arrangemet | medCOMITPL |
| N | |
| Jåhkåmåhken | |
| Jåhkåmåhke | n |
| river_bend | atINESSSG |
| Np | |
| åvdås |
| åvdås |
| before |
| vádtsájin | |
| vádtsá | jin |
| leave | 3PLPAST |
| Vitr | |
oahpásmuvvat doarromuseajn
According to grammars of LS - oahpásmuvvat takes ILL, but in the example sentence above it is used with a COMIT case. This leads to a change in meaning:
- muvva-t: used with ILL: the meaning is: get to know (people and concrete things), get accustomed to, get experience with, get familiar with.
(- tuvva-t used with COMIT the meaning is: learn to know). (Kristin)
Translation of place names
In English (as in other languages too - but not so much in Norwegian..) it is quite normal to translate proper names, e.g. München > Munich, Firenze > Florence, København > Copenhagen, etc.
Lule Sami place names have been translated into Norwegian, such as:
Ájluokta-Drag; Gásluokta-Kjøpsvik; Guovdageaidnu-Kautokeino; Divttasvuodna-Tysfjord, etc.
In Norway place names have officially a Sami and a Norwegian name, and the Sami name is used when writing in Sami, while the Norwegian one is used when writing in Norwegian.
As for free translation into English this could mean that we either use the Sami name, since we translate from Sami, or that we use the Norwegian name, since the Norwegian name is also internationally better known.
Which one should it be?
SÁMI - SAMI - SAAMI
(Kristin): I just talked with the employee at the museum at Arran who has the responsibility for the exibitions, Anne Kalstad Mikkelsen. She has checked the spelling of sáme with the Norvegian Sami Parliament. The Sami Parliament has decided that sáme is to be written Sami in English. So the museum has to follow this norm.
So - we should then follow the same norm! (Shouldn't we?)
(Dorothee): Definitely !