Difference between revisions of "Talk:Documenting Lule Sami"
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''There is no clear categorial distinction between adjectives and nouns in Lule Saami. (Reference???) '' | ''There is no clear categorial distinction between adjectives and nouns in Lule Saami. (Reference???) '' | ||
| − | This statement is somewhat dubious: if there would be no distinction between adjectives and nouns, how come we have derivational morphology on an adjective when it appears as a noun? (See example) *Strange* (-dorothee) | + | (Dorothee):This statement is somewhat dubious: if there would be no distinction between adjectives and nouns, how come we have derivational morphology on an adjective when it appears as a noun? (See example) *Strange* (-dorothee) |
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| + | (Dorothee): Sammallahti, already in his Table of Contents, talks about derivational nouns and derivational adjectives; so I think we should not talk about there being no categorial distinction between nouns and adjectives!!! | ||
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| + | (Dorothee): Here something different | ||
| + | Concerning '''subcategorization of nominalizers'''' you gave a list which looks interesting: | ||
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- Betegner selve handlingen: '''tjállem''' - the act of writing | - Betegner selve handlingen: '''tjállem''' - the act of writing | ||
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- Vær- og føreforhold, eller stedet hvor handlingen skjer: '''jådådahka''' - godt føre ; '''tjuoladahka''' - sted hvor en har hugget ved - som heter '''?''' og forkortes '''?''' (Kristin) | - Vær- og føreforhold, eller stedet hvor handlingen skjer: '''jådådahka''' - godt føre ; '''tjuoladahka''' - sted hvor en har hugget ved - som heter '''?''' og forkortes '''?''' (Kristin) | ||
| − | Yet, in its present form I cannot quite make sense out of | + | Yet, in its present form I cannot quite make sense out of the above listing. It would help if you could indicate the words citation form and the affix, and provide some more context for the Norwegian translations. Thanks |
| − | affix, and provide some more context for the Norwegian translations. Thanks | + | |
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Please add the full reference for Spiik | Please add the full reference for Spiik | ||
Revision as of 18:17, 5 November 2008
There is no clear categorial distinction between adjectives and nouns in Lule Saami. (Reference???)
(Dorothee):This statement is somewhat dubious: if there would be no distinction between adjectives and nouns, how come we have derivational morphology on an adjective when it appears as a noun? (See example) *Strange* (-dorothee)
(Dorothee): Sammallahti, already in his Table of Contents, talks about derivational nouns and derivational adjectives; so I think we should not talk about there being no categorial distinction between nouns and adjectives!!!
(Dorothee): Here something different
Concerning subcategorization of nominalizers' you gave a list which looks interesting:
- Betegner selve handlingen: tjállem - the act of writing
- Betegner redskap, midlet til å utføre handlingen med: gåjvun - ??
- Gjenstand for handlingen: gåbtjås ??
- Resultatet (produktet) av handlingen: tjála - text ???
- Vær- og føreforhold, eller stedet hvor handlingen skjer: jådådahka - godt føre ; tjuoladahka - sted hvor en har hugget ved - som heter ? og forkortes ? (Kristin)
Yet, in its present form I cannot quite make sense out of the above listing. It would help if you could indicate the words citation form and the affix, and provide some more context for the Norwegian translations. Thanks
Dorothee
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Please add the full reference for Spiik